Creating a Legacy

Michael Fabber is the Founder and CEO of UnleashU Now! He created a 6+ figure business in 4 months with no ad spending, no email lists, and all organic lead generation. Michael and his fearless team host conferences internationally in addition to courses, programs, groups, retreats, and the UnleashU Now mastermind group. In addition to UnleashU Now, Michael is also the Executive Director of a nonprofit that focuses on suicide prevention and owns several other businesses. He is known in the entrepreneurial space for the impactful movement he has created while focusing on business and personal growth!

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Marlana: Founder and CEO of unleash you now an executive director of a nonprofit and owner of several other businesses, Michael Fabber, is known in the entrepreneurial space for the impactful movement he has created while focusing on business and personal growth. Welcome, Michael. 

Michael: Hi, how are you? 

Marlana: Good! You know, if anybody doesn't know who you are, and they were to look you up, there are a ton of things, it is obvious that we could glean from you from a business perspective. But instead of that, today, we're going to talk about something bigger, and creating a legacy. So first of all, tell me what does that mean to you, legacy?

Michael: To me, your legacy is a story you wrote by your actions and being here. And that's everything.

Marlana: You know, it was interesting, because this morning, it just so happened that something came across my Instagram feed, and it said, legacy is a story you leave behind for others to tell the impression you make on the next generation. And I thought, yeah, that's a pretty big thing. And it's also a pretty weighty responsibility. So, when did you decide that it needed to be bigger than business for you?

Michael: By 2011, was really when the realization that how I was living and what I was doing was pointless, was meaningless. And that if I continued that way, the only thing at the end would be a number in a bank account. And anybody ever lost somebody you never were like, hold on, What number is that not backing out again. Alright, that's never happened for all the people I've lost. So, at that point, I realized I lived life in a way that I never want to live again.

Marlana: So, what did you start to change?

Michael: Everything started with me; my mindset, I believe, my focus, and then started working outwards. I believe everything comes in out. So, if it's real, true, and sustainable to be here first, and then it's going to work this way. But I changed everything about what I believed when I looked for who I wanted to be, what I was about. So, it was a lot of interiors to start, and then start working on the process of how does this come out? Like, how do I show it's always this funny story the first time. So, I told my buddy, we were going to change the world, right in 2011. And his response was, Are you high? And I was like, no! All right! But that also tells me where we've been right? So, I'm like, No! But seriously, like, we're gonna change the world. He said, That's impossible. And like, nobody changed his world. I was like, how does the world change? Right? Like, people change world. And he goes, Well, how are you gonna do it? I said one person at a time. And I'm very like, I'm, I look ragged, and I played sports a lot. But I'm really a nerd. I love to learn. So, I love to go to places and learn different things. So, when like, coaching space, a lot of people were like, *** me! I didn't eat the brownie this morning, my health coach. Like, I did not want that to be my life. Right? So, I was like, I'm gonna learn everything about this coaching space. And I came from human behavior, neuroscience, mental health space, sorry, knew some of it. And I was just like, let me dive in and see what they're doing and saying, and what resonates with me and what doesn't, what aligns with me and what doesn't, or who I want to be. Sometimes really say, Who am I now? Does that align with me? And sometimes we have to ask who I want to be? Does that align with me? Right? Because some of the things serving us now won't serve us where we want to be. And I went and got like, a million certificates, right? That says, I'm a coach. Alright, so whatever that means, but I take my buddy on, like, watch, I can help people like we can do this, I can help you. So, we went to a diner in local town. And I walked in, and I'm just looking around to see who I'm going to help. Right. Like talking about like, crazy people have diner. I didn't think this through beforehand, clearly. And there's a guy that counter and he's sitting there and he's eating and I'm like, This is my guy. Right? So, I walk up to him. I'm like, sir, how are you? looks over at me. I'm like, my name is Michael Fabbre. And tell me what your biggest problem is. I'm going to help you to I mean, guide you through and solve it. He goes betray me dead my eye and goes, you. Right? And I go, you got it, sir. I walked away. I walked my buddy. And I said, See one down. Let's keep going. So, it was such an awkward, horrible beginning, but really, it was exactly what it needed to be for me. 

Marlana: So how did you then take all of this learning knowledge and start to really play. In Motion aside from the awkward guy at the diner, right now? 

Michael: So, it's like, this is back in 2011 to 2012. And the first year I think we did like 300 ads free, like style like moments, right? Like we did, we had numerous clients, I can't remember the exact number. None of them paid a dime, right? I was like, we are going to go out of business. Right? Like, we do not have a business. We have a hobby. Yeah, but we had 300 and some odd sessions. And then we did some, some different kinds of like, one on one activities, and experiences. And I was like, This is great, but we're not going to Vegas. Like this isn't a business zombie. Alright, and my buddy, actually, same buddy, Alex before he's been here from day one of this door still is with me. He literally emcees every single event we had except for the last two. Oh, no, go monster. Amazing, dude, hilarious doesn't shut up now before he never talked never gonna shut up. It's weird. But we were going through. And at the end, he goes, Mike, do you really want to do this? Are you just doing this for fun? Usually, if you really want to do this, you have multiple other businesses, you know how to run a business. And my fear was that if I let business get involved in this, it would become every other business. And that was that was my interior dialogue happening. That's why I was like, no, no, like, we don't need to charge like, let's just find people help it. And that was the time where I had to question myself and go, you know, can you do this differently? How will you do this differently? What serves that purpose? And how do we make this something bigger than just hey, do you need something? Right? Can we help and make this something where we were actually part of transforming lives? 

Marlana: So, talk us through that a little bit. Because I think a lot of people, when you have a passion for something, and a desire to change people or do something for people, a lot of people are hesitant about the money part of it. So how do you shift that?

Michael: Right? So, what's great? So originally, when I got to this, I didn't want to talk business. Right? Right. Today, you're like, we're not going to talk business yet. We're talking some business. Because somehow, I always find a way towards it. And I'm like, I want to talk about mindset, I want to talk dreams and goals, and how like, what's fulfilment? What makes your heart neat? Like that stuff. So, when you say that passion, alright, a lot of people coming entrepreneurship, they know nothing about business, putting myself, my first attempt in nothing about this. I was like, I can do this, let's do this, right. And then I was like, Oh my God! I'm losing my butt over this. Right. And it was a lot of hard lessons. Right. And again, one of my buddies was like, Mike, you see all these people with passion? I want to help people. My ultimate goal is to end selfish behavior and suicide as my ultimate goal, right? When you say that you sound like a lunatic? Like, okay, buddy, right? So, it's like, how can we make that somewhat logical, so people can then believe it enough to follow you through the journey enough for you to actually be able to guide and serve them? So, one of the biggest things we have to change was, whatever the exchange policy is, we all need it. Right? Like, I don't care if you call it money. Now, crypto or NF Ts like any, like, used to be like furs, animals, and products. But whatever it was, that is your exchange policy, we all need that. And why I always say I want to serve Empowering Entrepreneurs is because we will typically take that and how can we better serve our people? How can we be better to be better, right? Because we have to be better before we can do better for others. Right? So, it's how, when you create that exchange policy, what you use that is for completely as you write like whatever you want the Lambo cool, right? Like, I'm really not a Lambo guy, so go enjoy that right, but cool, whatever it is you want to do. That's what you get to do with it. So, when we talk about money, a lot of people look at money as like, evil, or we'll bring them back out, right? No! It just highlights what's already there. Right. So, if you're good, you're good hearted. If you care, if you love, right, your people if you want to serve, that is going to be a tool to serve greater. So, we get out of the way of it being this crazy thing. And it's just a tool, right? Like anything else. And when you get it, you get to determine how you use it. But I know the more you have that tool, the more things you can do to help where you want to help and serve who you want to serve. And it's creating that mindset around it, and that you are worthy of it. Then that can create the change, and then like everything else, we work mindset first, and then we can start working outwards to who's your who and being able to explain your work in a way that resonates with people and make it realize investment, things like that. But that's some detail I won't get to. 

Marlana: You know, and it's interesting that you say that too, because I know a lot of people that are in business, that money is not their driving factor. It's good people, you know, for a lot of us, it's a result of what we do, but it's not the reason for what we do. And that's okay. 

Michael: That's great. But anything you do for the money, you're probably not gonna be able to earn it long enough to get the money. Right? There's two reasons why businesses fail, right? And it really comes down to one, right money. And I hate when people say that because that's not helpful at all. Right? We were having this, I literally almost walked off the stage was we're in this panel, and everybody kept talking about cash flow, right? And I'm like, that's a byproduct of what we do. Right? It's like even people that work, check to check you work, then you get your check, right? It's not like you get your check. And then hopefully, you work. Right, it does work that way. So, it's, we have to do what we have to do, order to create the impact, the value, add to whatever community or society we're trying to give it to. And then orange be reciprocated with the cat. So, if you get in this for cash, you're out, right? Even I can't work, I can't help you. It's over. Right? It's over. It's just when is it over? Right, because some people hit early. And then phase out, I would say like, there's so many people that come in that are hotter, right, or flashier than we are, right? I'm like, that's great. I, when I first started, they used to annoy the hell out me. I'm like, come on. We're here, like three years. They're just here three days, right? And now I'm just like, oh! That's going to happen. Let's see if they can maintain, right? Because it's a marathon. And if they're in it for the right reasons, they probably will. If they're in for wrong reasons, they probably won't. Right? And that's why we don't talk about opening businesses, we talk about starting, because movements never die. Businesses closed all the time. The movements never die. And the businesses that have been built in movement form, have survived product changes, leadership changes. And it's because movements don't actually live forever. You talked about legacy one.

Marlana: Yeah! So, talk to us about some of the difference between a movement and a business. 

Michael: Right? So, movement is like there's a greater cause to it. All. Right. It's like I always talk about Apple being Apple. And Apple's like, look at their logo. It's like the worst logos ever happened. Apple, right? Like, I always tell people like oh, your logo is it, go to the store, buy an apple in half walk outside and try to sell it. And at an Apple users won't even cover it. Because they want you to know why. Because it's the best product. It's not what what do they make us the best, they don't make the best phones, right? Data can say this, I'm just gonna buy that I'm not gonna buy my opinion. I have an iPhone. So, for iPhone users get really mad, I raffle everything, right. But it's like, why because Apple came out and set up for the missed it. I'm for the one that doesn't want to be in a cubicle, you know, round holes, square peg, or vice versa. Right? Like they came out for that person that was like, this isn't my life, and I don't want it to be it. So, like anyone that has a 20 or videographers’ younger guy, I call him a kid he gets very upset. But he's a younger guy. And he has his laptop. He has 7000 stickers on this laptop and was like why? Like, I couldn't have done it like any one of them. Right? But you don't want to sticker is not covering that apple. You know, he has like 7000 stickers on there. Why is because that's a beacon to all the other ones that feel the same way that believe the same way. They created a movement, a community, which was something bigger than just a product. That's why they went from computers to phones to headphones, to like a million other things, right? That people are now bought, buy, buy, buy, buy, why it's a different product, it's not what they originally sold you. If you're a product-based business and try to do that consumers gonna be like, That's not loyally, you didn't follow suit, you broke our trust. But if your movement based, they don't care what you give them because they know what it's for. And that's why when we say movements, it's like, it creates the idea that it's for something bigger, and your part of something bigger. And people we want connection as a cornerstone of the Union exists. Right? Like, there's a popular TED Talk says connection is the cure for addiction. And it's a dope, TED talk, I just disagree. And connection is part of addiction. I have an addictive personality. All right. I used to use it, booze, drugs, and parties and fun and all that good stuff. And then now I use it for personal growth and serving. I still have the same addictive personality. What I'm addicted to now serves me the person I want to be going forward rather than the other stuff served the whole I want to fill it; it didn't fill it was going to get worse and worse and worse and worse and worse. That's the problem. Right? So, connection is like we all want to connect this up. Right? It's like people that jump into different groups and communities and they're like, yeah, like you'll see on my post. People post, I looked like a Care bear, people will post a million hearts. Right? Blue and green hearts. I would say people make fun of me because I came from a different lifestyle. Right? Are you seeing a lot of trouble? I went through some things. Right? And now you'll go to my Facebook page and people were like so, people I know from bigger, like my whatever, like now you got like 40 hearts on your profile. And like, man, it's our community, we're strong, we believe in what we're fighting for, in what we're going towards, in the life and the world we think we can be part of, we can make, we can be part of setting. And that makes it important, right? Like that makes it matter because no offence, like, I'm just a person, right? Like, I'm just gonna bones, right? Like, they say, you know, what is the phrase “die hero” because we live long enough, they make you not want, right? And it's like, so the person is interchangeable. There could be someone else sitting in the seat tomorrow, right? But the movement, what we're going towards the calls above us all, I can't be stopped. 

Marlana: And you know, you hit on an interesting point that I just want to touch back on. Because sometimes when we go in a different direction, not everybody from our past is on board. Talk to us a little bit about being able to move forward regardless and having to trim around. 

Michael: This was the hardest thing for me like literally, they say we all have Gremlin. Right? And the Gremlin is something inside of you. That is like your hardest thing to get past. Right? It's like your Goliath. Right? And another sense. And mine was, I never want to leave my people behind. Right like that. That was always my thing. Right? Like, there was, I went through a lot of loss in life. I lost some really good friends I consider like brothers; I did lose a brother as well. I lost my passion. I was younger, right? So, I saw all too often an early what life can do, right? Like this what the end of life is, right? And before I understood that was nanny of life that we're going to go through these things. We're going to go through losses and how to view a loss rather than victim right? To that I was lucky, right? Like, I was lucky to know my dad, right and have a dad for 18 years. I was lucky to have a brother for 10 years. That was as dope as my brother, right? I was extremely lucky to have some amazing friends. Like they're like brothers to me that we lost long away. I was extremely lucky. Right? Rather than I lost them early, I was extremely lucky to have them at all. Right? And that's a reframe, and loss. Right? And it can be tested more. I mean, my mom's still here. She's amazing, right? All right! The day that those changes will be a hard reframe, for me to say, Man! I was so lucky to have such an amazing person in my life. And because of all these things, and where I came from, if you left your people behind, you're a sell up. Right? You left us right. So, I never want to be that because we always looked down upon that. And it was only a couple of years ago. And a guy didn't know it. All right. We were at a conference. I was speaking, he was speaking. And he said, Mike, I talked to you, right? Yeah, this little I know, what's your name again? Right? I don't wanna be disrespectful. What's your name? Again, I don't wanna say the wrong. And he was like, That's not important. He's like, I've been watching you though and studying you. Like, you're good. Just like, I don't say that often. You're good, like how you speak, how real you are, how open you are to people. Like, you're not a lot of BS. I'm trying not to curse in your show or curse like crazy. But I'm trying not to curse. And he's like, you're very real. Like you're very okay with being you. And that's the hardest thing in the space. I'm like, wow, like, thank you. That's a great comment. He's like, that was a nice part. Here's the problem for you, is that you're so busy trying to be you and trying to hang on to you, that you're not becoming and being what you need to accomplish, what you say you want to do. So, what's more important to you? Make that decision and live with it, but it's on you. Right? And he said this, it's like, as much as you're holding on to the people, you're trying to drag with you. There are people waiting on your path that are dying for you to get there and speak. Well, you have to speak to them. Pick which life when it doesn't want to go on when it's trying hard to write. And that was like one of the biggest like mind blowing moments for me and like, just like heart wrenching that people are literally waiting on the path that you're meant to travel. And they're waiting for you to speak and they're literally waiting, they're dying, suffering, going through all the trials and tribulations they're going through over and over and over because the voice is supposed to resonate with them. Right the thing that's going to move them is in you and you're not moving where you're supposed to move where you're meant to move, because you're hanging on someone that's not meant to move with you. And that was a time where I just had to be very honest and real with my team. I said, Listen, guys, this is what I'm trying to do. This is what we're about. This is what we said we got in this for, and talk is great. But it's the cheapest on the line. Right? It's like an action and then intention, I believe is higher than both. Right? And I have to be real. One of my biggest things is let's be very real and whatever space for them. And because of that I have to move forward. And not everybody went, and it was sad. Sometimes I reminisce and think about the early days in this when everybody was like, when it was like a hope dream. Like we didn't, these days, I always say these days we're living right now was once a dream and heck, at one point, it wasn't even a dream. We didn't even know this was possible. Right? So, it's one of the hardest things you have to do as me, as the person I am. But also, I will tell you the relationships that I've built and received because I move forward on the grace, right, the love and the experiences, 100% worth it. 

Marlana: Love that! What about this journey has been more than you expected? Good or bad? 

Michael: One, I never thought I'd be sitting here on your show. Right? I never thought I would be put on many people stages because when I first started, no one wanted me on their stage. I was wildcard still Walker, but I was even more of a wildcard than to savor like, unexpected, who I never thought we would have an event. Forget over a dozen a year, right? And even a dozen in a COVID year. I never like the community; how powerful it is like; I would say I'm blessed. The community is a community of leaders. When people say oh! you get your cocaine, I'm like, Yeah, alright. And they're like, you get trips like, this is part of our mastermind stuff, like you get all this stuff. And I'm like, Guys, you're missing the big, the best thing is, you're going to be in a room. Or like, you have Facebook group rooms, events, you're going to be with people that are literally life changing, right, that are changing other people's lives repeatedly over, and you're gonna be in the room with them, and you're gonna be able to serve them in a way they're gonna be able to serve you in a way. And if you're real and good at what you do, right, like, it's gonna be magical for you. And I never thought what the hell, I'm not gonna create that. Right? Like, I created crime, right? Like, what it was, I'm gonna create this good luck, right? And me saying that just sounded weird because I didn't create it. Right? I was part of thinking about a space being open for people to create it. Right? And so, when you say what was expected, none of this. None of this we're living right now is to be expected. Like literally in a couple of days, I fly out to Nashville to sign the paper on this year, this coming year's event, there's gonna be like, 250 people, and then 2023 veterans gonna be 3000 The whoever thought that, right? So, everything we're living now, it wasn't even a dream at one point like I did not believe or think this was feasible. Right. So, what I always say is, as you start feeling your purpose, right, you start getting pulled towards things, right. And as you start going, it's like climbing a mountain, you're gonna break through the clouds at one point, and everything's gonna come clear, right, you're going to be able to see better, when you can see better, you're going to see different things that you did not know existed or that were possible. And the more you climb, the more you're going to see. And then you're even going to see different mountains that are like now that's the mountain I want to climb. Right. So, it's like, there's no wrong here. But as far as like, oh, you can't quit this or pivot and like, that's just life like as you grow things you do grow. Right? So, all the good all the all the amazing things that we're experiencing all surprises right now. If you were like Mike, do you write this like before was like everyone just exact plan down? 10 years ago, right. I'm like, I did not write like, I was just like, let's, I don't even know how to help people. Literally, the first thing I did was hold the door for somebody who was like, make someone's life better today. Right? And a basketball coach has asked me that question a long time ago, anyone breathe easier because you existed. And when my life crumbled and shattered and I was literally in the worst hotel I was ever in. My stuff to my car was actually better than this motel. And it was an Alabama, No offence to anybody in Alabama. But the mobile in at the time was truth. Right, just roughing up sitting on the stoop. And I was like, how did I get here? Right? Like, how did my life detour to this point? And I thought about that line. Did anyone breathe easier? Because you existed? I was damn near 30 An answer was no. I was like, wow. Like, what kind of self-have I been? My entire existence? Right? And it was I just want to help someone. I just want to make someone's life easier. So, at that point, I was holding doors learning, right? How can I grow to actually help others grow? And also, the hardships I mean, the hardships are gonna be there like it's a battle, right? Like it's entrepreneurship, right? It's the arena. I talk about the arena often because I want people to understand I don't like to compare anything to war, they don't like to belittle any like wars beyond my understanding, right? So, I never want to form family of military, I never want to compare anything to that level. But I compare it to the arena. And it's a battle and you're going to be bruised, you're going to be beaten, there's time during the lay on the ground, and you're going to have to have something really important to stand up for, because you're not going to want to. And that's why I always like people make fun of like your Why are what you're doing this for. And that's one of the first questions I asked anybody I work with. Because if it's not powerful, you're willing to dive into why that's powerful. We're not going to survive, but you're not going to make and it's we need that thing that makes this pump, makes us get out of bed, makes us get into the office, makes us put our warrior makeup on, whatever you want to call it, right, like war paints, right? And our shields and our swords and get into the arena and fight every day.

Marlana: So, with that, of course, I have to ask what is your why?

Michael: My why is for everyone that ever sat on the beach with a gun in their mouth like I did, that they know that it's worth it, that they have someone, someone loves them, someone cares for them. And it's the battles worth it. Like all the ***, everything you went through, all the mistakes you think you made, everything that makes you think you're worthless, is gonna make you worth something. So, keep going. That's why I just wasn’t and so my daughter never gets in that position. 

Marlana: What lights you up? What sets your heart on fire? And do you gauge everything you do against that? 

Michael: 100% I gauge everything we do as a movement, as a business, as a person is to feel fulfilment, as much and as often as we can. Right? Because with that, we'll go through anything. And then yeah, there's literally a sign behind my desk that says, “what sets your soul on fire?” It's because it's such an important thing to know. And that moment that you connect with someone, and not like, we're both Mets fans, right? I'm not saying you're imagining I But that moment that you connect with someone at such an intimate, emotional level, like something that you don't know, someone could connect that with. And you just see it in their eyes that they know they're not alone now, right? Like in that area? That's the thing. Right? Because with that, then starts belief in what you can do. And not because of what you went through, you can't. 

Marlana: Is there a way to connect with people who are hesitant to connect? 

Michael: Right? One of the oldest forms of communication is story. Right? So, I can sit here and tell a story about when my best friend's taking his life, right in 2011? Oh! that's when my life kind of crumbled. That's when I realized how fake I was. Like the realization that the reality I created was completely fake. Right? So, it's like what existence that I have, right, I can tell a story. And you might not have had a best friend that lost their life. Right. But when we describe that feeling of being utterly lost, a feeling like I didn't belong, or deserve to be here, no matter what your story is that you're telling yourself that feeling can resonate with. Right, so all I need you to do is give me time to tell the story. And if I tell the story, I'll figure out by your body language and how you're reacting. When you're acting know what you connect with. And then as soon as I know that, then I know I can get you through storytelling to make your shield come down and down. Let me in a certain area, and then hopefully, I mean, well, by being in that area we can help each other and guide each other to a better part. 

Marlana: So, if you're known for nothing else, what do you want to be known for? 

Michael: Caring, was the care better guy? All right. I went from prison to Care bears No, but the that I cared, right that I loved. I think at the end, there's like the greatest human actors to inspire that said once and thought that was so amazing, right? Like the greatest human actors to inspire. And I always think the biggest point, like the point of our existence, is to love and be loved. Alright, and like I always say like, I'm not scared of death. Right? Like, I know that's gonna get all of us at some point. I'm scared to die with things left in me, right? Like I see my friends die too young. I know they have more left than them on me, right? And I see my mom, she's ringing that out. Right? Like she's like, I mean, as far as I find like, you're sorry, but she's ringing that thing out to the bucket. Right? He's using it everywhere. Everyone you think it's overseas. Right and you got more. And it's amazing. And I don't know when I go. But I know my goal is to go with that thing was ringed out. I loved everyone I could, I connected with everyone I was meant to. And that life was different because I was here. 

Marlana: Love it! With that Mike, I just have four final questions for you. First one is, what’s the best piece of advice you wherever given?

Michael: Literally, say no.

Marlana: Name one thing on your bucket list

Michael: Take my mom and my daughter to Italy for a month hopefully next year. 

Marlana: Have you ever been?

Michael: In a quick minute, I was in Italy, you know, tours, cruse, but not enough. My mom wrote a book called Growing Out of My Fear, I think. One of the best presents I got from my mom, and we went to *** museum. And she’s like oh my God! There is uncle Patty! And people are with me, and they are like… Yeah, that’s my mom’s life. So, I think like, taking her back to like, because she used to be… Her grandmother was on a game on the boat, and she was like her best friend or so. So, she heard all those stories about the old country, where the family came from and where they were about, and I think to take her in that element she has never been and taking my daughter with her to see an experience they could have together and catch up I can’t give anyone. I think that will be an ultimate moment of my life.

Marlana: When the toy companies finally get around to making an action figure of you, what two accessories will it come up with?

Michael: Two? I think it matters on what time of the day, what time of my life you ask me this question. I think a blow horn, and a pen. 

Marlana: Interesting! 

Michael: right? Because you gotta put your story out there. Because that will change lives forever, even after you are gone.

Marlana: Love it! And Last one, How do people find you?

Michael: I thought about it, most people are annoyed with me on Facebook because I post too much. You know, what’s funny is every week I get a message, what *** who makes posts for you, myself. But I would say the best way, first of all, I’m an open book. When I say this, I mean, I’m there for you, I mean it. My private number is public, is posted on every social media I have. You can call or text me, SMS, that’s my personal number. I’m here, what’s up? I’m working with you. And my email, that’s my private email, email me if you want. The best way to get me quicker other than those two ways, is to get me through Facebook. Michael Fabber, you can find me there, Coach Mike Fabber is my page. Follow me, let’s become friends, like I’m not big on “this is my page, let’s talk here,” a lot of people are, I’m more about the relationship and connections, that I hold dear too. So, find me on Facebook and Instagram. On Instagram is the coach mikefabber, on Facebook is just Michael Fabber, follow me and let’s connect.

Marlana: And I highly highly recommend that.

Michael: Thank you!

Marlana: Thank you so much for being here.

Michael: Thank you, I’m honored. I really appreciate you letting me on your platform. You have an amazing show, and you have an amazing light on this row.

Marlana: Thank you!